Monday, January 4, 2021

one scenario where Trump doesn’t go to hell, but his followers do and other comments

The better half gets a bit perturbed when I start making extreme comments, especially when God is involved, but right now I just cannot go much further. I am going to come back to this with an example of something to say that floored her and a discussion on the idea of once saved always saved. And throw in some other thoughts. 


Most everyone knows the Ten Commandments and the first two being I am the Lord thy God and Thou shalt have no other Gods before me. Probably not exactly the Hebrew you were expecting, but according to most scholars this sums it up in the ole English kind of way. So, here is the deal. Way too many followers of Trump treat him like a deity. Some have said or it has been put out there he is the chosen one. Well anyone that even has a remote clue of the above should already recognize the problems for the people who are bat poop crazy for Mr. Trump. They are breaking the first two commandments in one fantastical way. Now Trump isn’t. He hasn’t acknowledged himself as being a God, nor acknowledged he is the chosen one. Sure he basks in the glory of it all, but have you heard him say all his followers are right? So it does beg the question if Trump hadn’t broken pretty much all the other Commandments already; would he not go to hell, but his followers would. Just a thought. 


And so many of his followers also seem to be part of the Christian faiths that believe once save always saved. So I did a few minute internet research on that phrase and based on what I found or didn’t find, there isn’t much in the Bible to support that philosophy. 

I found two that comes close:

Whoever believes and is baptized will be saved, but whoever does not believe will be condemned. Mark 16:16 And this is a stretch to attribute to always saved.

For the gifts and the calling of God are irrevocable. Romans 11:29

And there maybe a few others, but other than these two that might touch on the idea of once saved always saved, well there were multitudes that read more like these:

Therefore let anyone who thinks that he stands take heed lest he fall. 

1 Corinthians 10:12

If anyone does not abide in me he is thrown away like a branch and withers; and the branches are gathered, thrown into the fire, and burned. John 15:6

For it is impossible, in the case of those who have once been enlightened, who have tasted the heavenly gift, and have shared in the Holy Spirit, and have tasted the goodness of the word of God and the powers of the age to come, and then have fallen away, to restore them again to repentance, since they are crucifying once again the Son of God to their own harm and holding him up to contempt. Hebrews 6:4-6

Or can you be saved again?: My brothers, if anyone among you wanders from the truth and someone brings him back, let him know that whoever brings back a sinner from his wandering will save his soul from death and will cover a multitude of sins. James 5:19-20, yet this isn’t once saved always saved in concept. 

Overall salvation or being saved in general are the primary references, but they do not state specifically that once save always saved. In fact, most follow the most famous John 3:16 “For God so loved the world, that he gave his only Son, that whoever believes in him should not perish but have eternal life.” which verifies you can be saved, but doesn’t touch on it is a blank ticket afterwards. 

And take heed I am not a Biblical scholar I was doing scatter shot research to find out in general what is said about once saved always saved. So I could be proven wrong, but from what I do know and have learned, I have not seen much evidence that this is what is taught to us by God, Jesus or the Holy Spirit.

So going back to the Trump followers, they might want to reread a bit before they put Trump before all others especially God. 


And I am much more conservative than I lead on most times. You might have read me say pro-life is from conception to natural death. And so many of the actions of people who call themselves pro-life, perturb me. So one day as I was listening to someone speak about Trump and pro-life as if they go together it hit me to say, would you vote for the devil if he said he was pro-life? Just a question. Yet, one the better half had quite a difficult moment with me. 


And speaking of stand up guys, how about: Brad Raffensperger, Brian Kemp, Ryan Germany, Geoff Duncan, Gabriel Sterling and a vast multitude of election officials, all of which should be getting the Presidential Medal of Freedom instead of Devin Nunes and Jim Jordan. All the election officials in the infamous swing states and especially the ones in Georgia. Here they are Republicans, yet still fighting for what is right against their own party leader. These are the men that should earn the highest awards in our country. They deserve it so much more so than those two bootlickers. Sheesh.

And God only knows what is about to happen if Georgia elects two Democratic Senators, no matter how good of a job they do. No one should go through the levels of hell Trump is putting them through just because Trump is anything but a grown man. Again some of his followers need to do a bit of reading before they come out and say anything if they put one man over another and if so exactly what are they doing. (hint see above)


God save the Constitution, the Constitution is dying and by Thursday morning we are going to find out how close is the grim reaper. 


No cheers tonight folks, time to hold on tight and say a little prayer for this country if you are so inclined. 

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